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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Well, it's as obvious as the conclusion one draws when comparing H2H from...

Getting old, eh? Down rite irritating, huh?

Of course, out of my era, your 78 question, but from here and there I have gathered that some pegged 78 as a time of sign decline for Keith and even Jerry...not sure of specifics, but by 79, with the trs to Brent, it seems some pick those years as low points, with a revival of sorts into the early 80s. Not sure if I have this right.

Given this is SDH's era, perhaps he can help. Or CLIFF and the others that don't go beyond 77, typically, might be able to splain if there is something specific about this show/time period in 78 that heralds an important change...?

Now, lets get some of you late 70s fans to chime in...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 12, 2009 10:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Decline? Yeah, can't say I agree with that word. Transition fits better for me. I know that many folks here feel the band ceased to produced worthwhile music after 77, but I also know many of you that find shining examples of their abilities after that year. To me it was their sound that changed, not the quality. I fully respect and understand those who feel "the older the better". I can't, however, side with those who say they sucked raw meat by-products after 77. IMHO (and afterall, it's all just opinions ain't it?) their sound may have changed through the years, but they still produced some massive shows, as well as entire tours, that kept them at the top of their field. But I will leave the final decision to the individual (you know who you are) about good/bad, decline/shift, fantastic/abysmal, Shining supernova of musical nirvana/black anal fissure of cacaphonic dissaray.

Yeah, I said it.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2009-06-12 17:06:43

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 12, 2009 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Keep drinking that kool-aid Patrick :)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 12, 2009 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

This is one of those discussions that will never reach a neat conclusion. Both sides seem pretty well entrenched and unwilling to budge. But can't we all just get along? Or am I destined to be pumelled relentlessly on the side of a California Highway by the two warring factions while a disinterested third party videotapes the beating?

Well, so be it. But let it be known that I love all eras/lineups/whatever of the band from start to finish for different reasons...well, maybe not the actual finish. I admit that I can't listen to anything after 91, no matter how much Kool Aid I consume.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Who wants "neat"? Hmmm, well, okay--drinks, yes. But only for the good stuff.

Seriously, though, if you mean early era vs later, 71 stoppage vs 77 stoppage, I have no problem with it, any of it, and will go to my grave committed to the following proposition:

One can make qualitative judgements about this music (or art, or hair styles, or the color of your compound's fence) that with the proper set of clear assumptions, is logically defensible, ergo, arguable, and that though modified by culture, societal norms, etc., etc., etc. (picturing Yul Brenner yet?), it transcends those vulgar influences.

If we can't agree that in priniciple it could be settled, why bother? Really. Why even let me know what you are listening to if it is entirely, unilaterally, unequivocally subjective?

Of course we know our band is good. And I know Jack Bruce is good. And I know JOTS is going to get that fact some day...Why else would I keep showing up here?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 12, 2009 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

And Kobe got away with a hard foul but it doesn't matter because Fisher buried the shot(s) and Howard blew it at the line.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Can you believe it? How many foul shots did the Magic take in the fourth quarter? How many did "we" take?

Unreal.

But, of course, they MISSED them...

Was thinking Kobe's elbow might draw something, though frankly, the face was on the nipple, and I always think you have a right to swing elbows to protect a region so close to the body. But was sure that Pietrus would be suspended (recall I watched as Amare was suspended for LEAVING the bench!?! WTF!? Closed fist back beating and it's nuthin?).

Glad he wasn't though.

Can you believe how poorly so many of the Lakers bench have played?

Too bad about Howard--he really needs a move or two...he is almost Shaq-like in moving folks out from under. NOTE: I do consider it a foul now...

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 12, 2009 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

Call SDH a whinin' boy if you will.


(and he won't get the joke because he's never heard the song......right??)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1992-05-31.sbd.miller.92388.sbeok.flac16

Track 12 SDH, track 12.:)

This post was modified by high flow on 2009-06-12 20:48:22

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

I wanted you to know I caught your bball ref in the other post...well my old friend, it may be that the two of us will only be able to talk about what might have been with the legendary (!?) two on two game that was to take place between you and Dire and McGlone and me. Haven't seen the two of them around here of late. Assume that Dire is off in "marital bliss" and McGlone is off in "photographic creativity" of his own making.

But, I miss the big Irish guy...the drooling wolf, less so (jk; I understand his preoccupation).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

BTW: any June with this many <100 has to be the beginning of the End, eh? Something big...I dunno.

Enjoy!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

I prefer sucking cooked but left out and rank meat products.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 12, 2009 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/8/78 - The End?

I believe I actually saw Black Anal Fissure Of Cacaphonic Disarray opening for RHCP at Lollapalooza...?

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2009-06-12 17:23:17